Sorry miss read your post i thought you meant the full LSD effect not a part of the chemical reaction that it causes.

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First of all.. i respect that you want to believe in anything but yourself...

Yes.. i can not only believe.. i know for sure.. and i have never, in all of my days in the half a century i live, seen anything that leads me to think, that there is even the slightest hint of what you, or any other religious person might think, could be true...

Trust me.. just as strong as you believe in Allah.. i believe he doesn't exits.. and we die when we die.. one day.. we will both find out..


Ahh.. here comes the scaring part... Well, sorry, i am not a child you can scare with silly scary stories... you nor Allah scares me one little bit with a hell after death, or some obscure punishment after we die, just because we choose not to believe in Allah..

Suppose, for the sake of argument, I would start to believe in Allah, just because i'm scared of his punishment... then tell me.. were is the free will in that ?.. That sounds more like a dictatorship then a religion to me...


And who decides what is the true religion ?.. you ?..Jesus ?.. Allah ?.. your mother, who obviously didn't raise you with a free will, and an open mind ?..

thats rather presumptuous of you, don't you think ?.. Islam will never convince a Christian, and a Christian will never convince an Islam.. the sooner you both realize that.. the sooner you lot can stop laying waste to each others lands.. and killing each others people... and you nor anyone else will ever convert me.. so you can stop trying.. you don't scare me, you wont be able to force me in believing, and i heard all of the arguments of most religious sides before.. Yes.. i have been there.. i have done many, and rejected all religion as superstitious crap.. designed not to liberate, but to limit.. and you may consider that an educated opinion..

Have a nice day..

John Lennon Imagine....

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just thought id quote you

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My friends:

Suppose you find a watch in the middle of a desert. What would you conclude? Would you think that someone dropped the watch? Or would you suppose that the watch came by itself?

Of course no sane person would say that the watch just happened to emerge from the sand. All the intricate working parts could not simply develop from the metals the lay buried in the earth. The watch must have a manufacturer.

If a watch tells accurate time we expect the manufacturer must be intelligent. Blind chance cannot produce a working watch.

But what else tells accurate time? Consider the sunrise and sunset. Their timings are so strictly regulated that scientists can publish in advance the sunrise and sunset times in your daily newspapers. But who regulates the timings of sunrise and sunset? If a watch can not work without an intelligent maker, how can the sun appear to rise and set with such clockwork regularity? Could this occur by itself?

Consider also that we benefit from the sun only because it remains at a safe distance from the earth, a distance that averages 93 million miles. If it got much closer the earth would burn up. And if it got too far away the earth would turn into an icy planet making human life here impossible. Who decided in advance that this was the right distance? Could it just happen by chance?

Without the sun plants would not grow. Then animals and humans would starve. Did the sun just decide to be there for us?

The rays of the sun would be dangerous for us had it not been for the protective ozone layer in our atmosphere. The atmosphere around earth keeps the harmful ultraviolet rays from reaching us. Who was it that placed this shield around us?

We need to experience sunrise. We need the sun's energy and it's light to see our way during the day. But we also need sunset. We need a break from the heat, we need the cook of night and we need the lights to out so we may sleep. Who regulated this process to provide what we need?

Moreover, if we had only the sun and the protection of the atmosphere we would want something more-beauty. Our clothes provide warmth and protection, yet we design them to also look beautiful. Knowing or need for beauty, the designer of sunrise and sunset also made the view of them to be simply breathtaking.

The Creator who gave us light, energy, protection and beauty deserves our thanks. Yet some people insist that he does not exist. What would they think if they found a watch in the desert? An accurate, working watch? A beautifully designed watch? Would they not conclude that there does exist a watchmaker? An intelligent watchmaker? One who appreciates beauty? Such is Allah who made us. SubhanAllah!

before you respond i want you to
read more about the islam from
resources
like this
http://www.islamisforyou.com
thanks a lot

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Never mind.. maybe i wasn't clear enough in my post...

Cool.. you choose to totally ignore what i said, and keep promoting what you believe in, just like i would expect from a religious fanatic...

This discussion is over where i am concerned.. I have no mind in wasting anymore time on someone that just don't want to listen to reason, and only spreads propaganda for a rather fascist religion. That will say, not the religion is fascist.. only most of its followers... of which you are obviously are a good example.

For the sake of peace, i will ignore you from this point on, as long as you talk about religion.

Case closed.

This is pretty close to spamming I don't mind discussions about anything but to keep using links and pre typed (Cut/Paste) text to try and force and opinion is a bit shitty. You have the freedom of speech on this site and the rules are very slack but there are rules. Please no more links to islam sites, but feel free to express your own opinion not that of others

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Well i would say what the f*@k he doing in the desert and i sure he wouldn't give a f*@k what the time was as long as he got out of the desert. What use does a watch have in the desert none. Although you could trade it in for water maybe but there again water's free so f*@k the watch you dont need it.

Preaching a belief to someone who does not want to believe is wrong. It like a telemarketer phoning you up to sell you windows we don't stand for that so why should we stand for preaching.

We are all entitled to our own beliefs it's call free will or does allah not teach that.

F-16 would you sit and listen to a jew tell you his/her beliefs i dont think you would and dosen't allah teach that stealing is wrong would you class not paying for what you download as stealin if so why are you here?

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