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Old 07-22-2007, 07:28 AM
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No matter what you say.. i still hate Hitler.. to name one asshole that should rot in hell.. and thank his god that i didn't live yet in the time he was alive...
Don't be mistaken - I'm not defending the man, but maybe if he was loved more as a child... he might have solved world hunger instead of leaving death & destruction as his legacy... we'll never truly know what was going through his mind. I'm not sure I would even want to spend 5 minutes in his mind.

But you're right - he is the closest to true evil that we have seen yet.
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Old 08-22-2007, 10:15 PM
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Perhaps she also loves death...
One day we all gana die DUDE,this is life!!
But it is a mater of deferent ways of death.
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Old 08-23-2007, 09:49 AM
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Imagine... in 100 years.. everyone, and i mean everyone.. on this world will be dead... the whole world.. and thats been going on every 100 years, (in the older days people died after like 50 years even)

Multiply that with 50 million years.. and you would have one hell of a crowded heaven.. if there was one... (pun intended)


Btw.. do all animals go to heaven too ?... i don't think the bible says anything about that... and if they don't, then you can just kill em.. if God doesn't care.. why should i ?...
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Old 08-25-2007, 06:21 PM
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Btw.. do all animals go to heaven too ?... i don't think the bible says anything about that... and if they don't, then you can just kill em.. if God doesn't care.. why should i ?...
No judgment for animals DUDE when animals die that’s it. No heaven or hell.
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Old 08-26-2007, 11:28 AM
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No judgment for animals DUDE when animals die that’s it. No heaven or hell.
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Is that according to Allah, or God ?... Allah, in your case, i guess.

Thats by the way what i believe will happen to me when i die.. Perhaps i'm an animal.. (according to some, i'm close......) I rather see that as a compliment though.. Animals aren't decadent, they do not lie, they know no greed.. they do not kill anything that isn't a thread, and even if it is.. they let it go when it surrenders.. they do only kill when it's dinner to them... and they always stay loyal to their own nature.. kinda like i am doing.. or at least trying very hard.. I rather deal with animals then people.. animals know no deception.. In many ways, they are better creatures then humans.. i even dare to go as far, to says that; If there would be a God.. animals would be his only successful creation.

But..

I somehow have a problem with jugement.. from any "God" .. but thats another subject... I wondered, for i had a cat for 13 years, that died of cancer. He never was anything then a good animal to everyone.. even the mice... which he refused to kill.. lol. thats why we called the local mouse "Karel" and fed him cheese.. Our cat wasn't going to eat him anyway... We loved that cat.. and so did that mouse.. He was a special animal.. really part of the family.. I dare to say that i would at least dislike any god that says that that cat doesn't deserve anything... its a living creature, it was helping us all he could.. and therefore in my eyes thats something sacret.. we cried when he died back in 1992.. and we gave him a proper burial.. In a little coffin and all.. no further silly things like a headstone or anything.. but Caroline and I felt he deserved that respect..

Since i'm writing my biography.. i came to that, and thats why i was wondering...
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When Allah created man he gave him mind to think to decide what’s wrong and what’s right, animals don’t have this, author wise they will be equal to humans, and u can imagine what will happen DUDE.
This is why the judgment for people, u think and u decide what to do and u are going to be judge for it, this is why there is heaven and hill.
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To warship him to pray for him and to fight evil who refused Adam when he created him, Allah created us to make sins and mistakes and ask for his forgiveness so he will forgive us.
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So.. what u are saying, or rather Allah is saying, is that Animals have no means of deciding to do wrong, and therefore always do the right thing ?... they simply have no choice.

I would argue, that this would have been the perfect mechanism to equip humans with as well.. How much suffering, war and death could have been avoided with that ?... Not implimenting that in humans, literally has been a mistake of Biblical proportions...




But...

If animals cant do wrong.. they are pure good.. and there is indeed no need to have some sort of a judgment day. But that still doesn't explain to me, why the cant be admitted to heaven. Now it looks like they are punished for being good. Perhaps, it was a human, that thought of the saying:

"No good deed goes unpunished..." .. But an animal would know better...



You know what i believe in, Summer ?..

If you're good, you go to *heaven, and if you're bad.. you die when you die.."

*Heaven being a state of bliss, that is automatically created for you, by your own brain chemicals, on the moment of death. Indeed.. LSD to name one, is a chemical substance, (lysergic acid diethylamide) that triggers the exact same chemical in the brain when swallowed. I have used LSD, in a so called "paper trip" 3 times, back in 1975, to try to get answers to questions related to this. (And yes.. it worked..)

*note: Hash, or rather the chemical in the Cannabis Sativa plant, has a far less strong, but basically same effect.

So while the English have a saying; "the pleasure of the pudding is in the eating.." I would state; "the punishment, if deserved for mistakes while living... is in the dying.


As for the truth about life itself..:

We Homo sapiens originated around 200,000 BP (Before Present). The earliest humans were hunter-gatherers, a lifestyle well-suited to the savanna. They generally lived in small, nomadic groups. So... what were we different from animals, except for a higher IQ ?... Or do we have to conclude that people with an IQ lower then lets say; 60.. should from now on be referred to as Animals, and treated as such ?.... So no rights to go to heaven for them ?...

Being animals, they would automatically be more or less perfect.. so should we have to conclude from that, that intelligence is only bothering us ?...

Question 1 of interest:

Why is there no known record of any god, from before about 3000 Years BP ?.. While humans were around already for 387.000 years longer ?...

Question 2 of interest;

If A god.. only created us imperfect, so that we would make mistakes, solely for the purpose of having to ask the creator for forgiveness.. of mistakes, he could himself have easily avoided ?...

That sounds rather egoistic and self serving to me... tbh..
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Hmmm.... I've now made two posts... meaning that images still come up as messages saying "sorry, images are not visible until you've made three posts".

So if I just post a few rambling musings, this will be my third post, and I can actually see these images...

But then again, from the comments, do I actually want to see these images ?

Oh, oh, too late -- I've already written this third post !

ewwwwww! Gross !
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